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score pads: color/b&w/greyscale
User: rainbowrose
Date: 9/27/2015 9:35 pm
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On the pages with the details about the score pads, it says they are printed in black and white. 

Do you mean only black and white or do you mean greyscale?


Furthermore, when I look at the example games that use score pads and hover over "small score pad" or the like, I see color examples.  A few examples are: Greener Pastures Ranching (Deluxe), Trinity's Challenge, 7 Summits: A Mountaineering Challenge, and Children of the Mark: The Role Playing Game Player Pack I.

Are you offering them in color now?

Thanks

Re: score pads: color/b&w/greyscale
User: rainbowrose
Date: 9/27/2015 10:40 pm
Views: 108
Rating: 0

More questions about score pads:

Are the leaves of the score pads double sided?

When it says 4 items/sheet does it mean 4 leaves/sheet or 4 pages/sheet?


Note: to me a leaf is the 3D paper with 2 sides

and a page is one of the two 2D surfaces of a leaf. 

So 1 leaf is 2 pages if double sided

or 1 leaf is 1 page if single sided.

On the page about the Small Score Pads, it says that a pad of 40 sheets costs $2.99.  But sheets are $0.30 which would be 40 X $0.30 = $12. 

Do you mean

40 leaves (80 pages) or

20 leaves (40 pages) or perhaps

if not double sided then 40 leaves (40 pages)?

It's clear that you ment 40 items (10 sheets) but I'm not sure what you are counting as an item.  Also 10 X $0.30 is $3 so why is it $2.99?

Lastly, when you add a score pad to a game, it asks for page count.  Do you mean pages the way I use the word page or do you mean leaves?

Thanks so much.  I'm sure I'm making it more complicated that it needs to be and I appriciate you clearing things up for me.

Re: score pads: color/b&w/greyscale
Heather (Customer Support)
User: Heather (Customer Support)
Date: 9/28/2015 5:12 pm
Views: 38
Rating: 1

For the score pads, each "leaf" is printed double-sided, with each side counting as a "page".  Each "page" is an "item".  

The cost of $.30/sheet is rounded, which is why it does not come to an even number when you add the total number of pages.  

The "page count" will be for the total number of pages (one side of a "leaf" in the score pad).  

Re: score pads: color/b&w/greyscale
User: rainbowrose
Date: 9/28/2015 8:25 pm
Views: 3
Rating: 0

Thanks Heather for clearing all that up.

On the rounded price of $0.30/sheet, why are you rounding here where you don't other places?

For example the black sticker pawn is $0.1428/each

I'm fine with 100th of a penny and I like to do the calculations myself.

Re: score pads: color/b&w/greyscale
Heather (Customer Support)
User: Heather (Customer Support)
Date: 9/28/2015 8:41 pm
Views: 4
Rating: 1

Because pricing is only listed to two decimal points for the printed components.  For the most accurate calculation, you should be using the Cost Estimator:  

1)  Visit our pricing page at https://www.thegamecrafter.com/publish/pricing

2)  Click on "Display Cost Estimator" on the upper right-hand side of the screen

3)  Next to each component, enter the quantity you would like to include in your game

4)  Scroll down to the bottom of the screen.  You'll see the cost for the printed components, as well as the total cost for the game with the handling fee (you'll need to enter the total cost for any non-printed components from our Shop).   

Re: score pads: color/b&w/greyscale
User: rainbowrose
Date: 9/28/2015 11:24 pm
Views: 84
Rating: 0

I have used the cost estimator but I like to do the calculations myself.  I frequently find errors on my bills where the company overcharged me or undercharged me.  In either case, I bring it to their attention.  Computers make mistakes because programmers like all humans make mistakes.  As I said, I like to do the calculations myself.  My parents taught me that customer should always be able to figure out the total amount due for themselves and has equal responsabilty with the seller to get the number correct.  Two seprate calculations are more likely to be correct if they match than one single calculation.

So how much is it per sheet (4 pages, 2 leaves) for the 3 sizes of score pads?  Thanks

Re: score pads: color/b&w/greyscale
Heather (Customer Support)
User: Heather (Customer Support)
Date: 9/29/2015 1:44 pm
Views: 6
Rating: 1

The Cost Estimator is going to give you the same pricing as actually building the game in our system, so using the Cost Estimator will give you the most accurate pricing.  As you've stated, we're talking about a difference of one penny, so regardless of the hundredths of a cent that may be rounded on the pricing, if you calculate it yourself based on the pricing you're seeing on the pricing page, you're still getting within a cent or two depending on the size of the booklet.  

Re: score pads: color/b&w/greyscale
User: rainbowrose
Date: 9/29/2015 11:27 pm
Views: 47
Rating: 0

So you are saying the cost estimator gives the actual price and not an estimate but the published price is a rounded approximation and not the actual price? 

Re: score pads: color/b&w/greyscale
User: zovu
Date: 9/30/2015 8:41 am
Views: 5
Rating: 1

Everything shows the actual price. Think of it this way:

The smallest a Small Score Pad can be is 40 pages, which uses 10 sheets to print. TGC set the price of a 40 page Small Score Pad at $2.99.

However, they display their prices per sheet. Since a 40 page score pad uses 10 sheets, that means each sheet costs $0.299 which is rounded to $0.30 for display purposes.

Re: score pads: color/b&w/greyscale
Heather (Customer Support)
User: Heather (Customer Support)
Date: 9/30/2015 9:32 am
Views: 718
Rating: 1

Perfect explanation, Zovu.  

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