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Self Censorship and Traditional Tarot Nudity
User: James Wickson
Date: 9/8/2017 1:43 am
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Traditional Tarot images often feature the nude female and sometimes male form. Such images appear in such iconic decks as the Tarot de Marseille, the Swiss 1JJ Tarot, and the Rider Waite Smith Tarot.

My own deck Trionfi Tarot Playing Cards incorporates 19th century public domain images of an ancestor of the Swiss 1JJ which features the older Pope/Popess images instead of the recent Juno/Jupiter.

In the judgement of the TGC community, does the example below consitute grounds for self censorship as it pertains to the display of female nipples?

http://a.trionfi.eu/WWPCM/decks05/d02971/002/d02971d0221.jpg

Re: Self Censorship and Traditional Tarot Nudity
User: tarotbear
Date: 9/8/2017 7:46 am
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Nipples (and breasts), like buttocks, are not a sex organ.

Re: Self Censorship and Traditional Tarot Nudity
User: Peter Zout
Date: 9/8/2017 1:16 pm
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It is better to ask TGC directly, just to be sure. Things change around here.

For a while, TGC was censoring the mere word 'penis' in the description of my 'Phallomancy Oracle' - NOT ALLOWED! 'Penis' is a medical word, not an obscenity - but I was forced to edit in 'male member' for 'penis' for the initial release. Then one day TGC was selling 'The Sex Toy Tarot' with pictures of dildoes and vibrators on it, and when I questioned TGC how that could be allowed but 'penis' was not, I was told that I could use 'penis' in my card descriptions, but not pictures of penises on my shop page. I am guessing what is in your deck is up to you, but the public must be appropriately warned so that it can be filtered out in a search; this is why there is 'Safe Search' options in your 'edit Details' page

I agree with tarotbear - boobies, nipples, and butts are not a sex organ; most people are aware (hopefully) that the tarot World card has a naked woman, and the Lovers card has a naked couple. They are drawings, not pornographic photographs.

Re: Self Censorship and Traditional Tarot Nudity
User: James Wickson
Date: 9/8/2017 2:09 pm
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Thanks for the input.

The images I've used are related to an iconic Swiss deck which has appeared on the 1960s American TV show Dark Shadows and the 1950s film Touch of Evil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWtAZwxK5H0

https://i-p-c-s.org/pattern/ps-7.html

I have a copy of a recent English language Swiss 1JJ and there's no age restrictions or warnings on the box art.

I think I won't use the "self censor" option after all as the nudity should not be sufficiently controversial to warrant it.

Re: Self Censorship and Traditional Tarot Nudity
User: tarotbear
Date: 9/9/2017 9:09 am
Views: 385
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"I think I won't use the "self censor" option after all as the nudity should not be sufficiently controversial to warrant it."

I agree with you - if anyone is 'upset' by that archaic illustration that shows boobs - they really need to get a real life. TGC does not sell children's games or card decks.

However - once upon a time - TGC sold some rather questionable ADULT stuff they may not admit to - one of them was a card game called 'Whose P*ssy Am I?' where you matched a female crotch to the female porn star it belonged to. Oddly - the best-selling 'Porn - The Game' does not have a single pornographic image in it; however, some objected to the shop page with the word 'Porn' being shown at the top of the TGC site. But once you click on 'Adult' or any of the forbidden terms in 'Edit Details', your shop page will never be shown in the 3 games shown when you open the TGC site, once reserved for the best selling game or newest release at the time.

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